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Posted by 'SteveC' on 26 Sep 2008 @ 08:07


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Preferably sensibly, which yours is!

Ok, I wondered how long before video raised it's head!

I have watched a lot of video footage over the years and on the whole I do not find it as helpful as you'd at 1st think (me included), an opinion shared with many of the top car CoC's who have footage available to them. In football and tennis where you have a fixed line and are judging ins and outs video is perfect, however if you are judging fast moving incidents on a kart circuit it's far from as good or useful. Before you disagree with me go and have a look at any Kart video footage you can find on the net and see if you can tell for definite who was at fault. Watch a dozen incidents and tell me who was to blame from the footage! Or ask Buckmore if you can watch their installed system and see if you can spot any culprits. After 15 mins of watching their cctv screens look out the picture window and tell me by watching which are you more likely to catch poor driving!

I suspect all that will happen if circuits do fit cctv, everyone will have even greater expectations as to how many drivers the CoC should bring to book and will be even more disappointed when it doesn't happen!

Andrew Fairley told be of a system used in Ireland that he said was excellent, I've not managed to track it down, but he says it was exceedingly expensive!

Many have banged the drum for video footage, especially John Clucas, but non when asked have set up an trial for us all to agree it's as good as they proclaim it is! Oddly enough we're still waiting for the theorists to still prove their point and I reckong hell is starting to freeze over after all!

Message Thread:

What is the point............  by 'maxdad'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 10:45)
Advised not to do so?  by 'SteveC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:01)
Re: Advised not to do so?  by 'maxdad'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:06)
And the exact words were?  by 'SteveC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:12)
Re: Advised not to do so?  by 'kartcollector'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 20:16)
Re: What is the point............  by 'RotaxMax22'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)
Re: What is the point............  by 'wildcard'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 14:39)
Re: What is the point............  by 'StepTZR250'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:09)
Re: What is the point............  by 'Aztech'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:14)
A bit of contact is OK..........  by 'FilW'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:22)
'Bud'??????  by 'itpro'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:13)
Re: 'Bud'??????  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:23)
Re: 'Bud'??????  by 'WillDendy87'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:44)
Will Dendy 87  by 'michaelg36'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 19:11)
Difficult for both sides.......  by 'ScoobyScene'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 17:02)
Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought  by 'NealC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 18:50)
Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought  by 'frag10'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 18:53)
Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought  by 'ScoobyScene'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 23:18)
At least 3 officials don't agree with your version  by 'SteveC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 19:02)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'Andreasdad'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 21:38)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'stevenw'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 0:16)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'broke'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 0:32)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'KenE'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 3:41)
Certainly the CoC is in charge of the meeting!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:41)
Re: Certainly the CoC is in charge of the meeting!  by 'richydehav'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 12:29)
Usually black flags are only used where a CoC is..  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:10)
And that what the appeal system is for!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:15)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'kartcollector'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 7:27)
Not sure Steven, but I have seen both yours and  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)
Steve C  by 'tweaker'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:10)
Re: Steve C  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:22)
ps it was response to your sons attack!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:50)
Re: Steve C  by 'tweaker'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 18:02)
Re: Steve C  by 'NJB'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 18:15)
Re: Steve C  by 'tweaker'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 19:18)
Mr Welsh and Steven!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 21:47)
Re: Mr Welsh and Steven!  by 'tweaker'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 23:42)
I was not aware you did MSA meetings!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:06)
I will clarify one thing for you tho'!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:41)
Re: I was not aware you did MSA meetings!  by 'tweaker'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:45)
Supply contact details and I will.......  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 9:54)
Re: Supply contact details and I will.......  by 'tweaker'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 10:00)
Thank you.  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 10:14)
You're right!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 21:41)
Re: Not sure Steven, but I have seen both yours an  by 'stevenw'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:39)
No Steven, I'm quite willing to be pleasantly.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:31)
ps I rarely do non MSA, so our paths are not.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:04)
Re: No Steven, I'm quite willing to be pleasantly.  by 'stevenw'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 20:15)
You're right this isn't the time nor the place!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 22:13)
Sorry but it would be un professional to discuss  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:09)
Re: Sorry but it would be un professional to discu  by 'RoadRat'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 12:49)
Re: Sorry but it would be un professional to discu  by 'kartcollector'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 17:14)
As I said retaliation is usually obvious, both on  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:13)
And that's what the protest system is for!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:17)
Re: And that's what the protest system is for!  by 'RoadRat'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 21:16)
I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'michaelg36'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:51)
Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'John'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 23:29)
Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'michaelg36'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 1:09)
Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 8:28)
Flag marshals if doing their job right  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:44)
Yes we do have a bigger problem and this is why!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:34)
Re: And that's what the protest system is for!  by 'bertie77'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:51)
Penalties are also dealing with it after.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:58)
Re: Penalties are also dealing with it after.....  by 'bertie77'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:36)
The reality Bertie is...................  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:43)
Re: Steve, the reality is...................  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 12:31)
Re: John - surely the protest supports the officia  by 'richydehav'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 12:57)
Re: Richydehav  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:20)
I believe all incidents seen by officials.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: I believe all incidents seen by officials.....  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:27)
Yes you're right, that is the exception!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:40)
Just an addition tho'!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:43)
Re: Just an addition tho'!  by 'RoadRat'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 20:52)
Re: Just an addition tho'!  by 'DevonHawker'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 23:12)
Re: Just an addition tho'!  by 'richydehav'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 7:29)
We live in an era where you have to.......  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 8:09)
Everyone has a right to comment!  by 'SteveC'  << You are here!
Re: Everyone has a right to comment!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 11:55)
Re: Everyone has a right to comment!  by 'andrewf'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 13:07)
Re: I believe all incidents seen by officials.....  by 'KyleReece'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 13:42)

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