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Re: DavidMc
Posted by 'davidmc' on 24 Nov 2008 @ 12:15


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"I have 'crossed white line' to STAY with the rest of the pack (and to LEAD them, if I get/got the chance!) who are ALSO cheating in the same way! The difference is that I K*N*O*W that it's CHEATING and would like to see it STAMPED OUT so that we ALL do NOT have to do it in FUTURE! Were I to be 'blackflagged' for it then, so long as all OTHER cheaters were identically punished, I would SUPPORT the CoC who BlackFlagged me and go up and THANK him for it!"

Your statement above sums up my position pretty well. I'll continue doing it until such time as I can't get away with it. I don't like bouncing over the kerbs, I'm starting to feel it the next day. However, I don't see how the rule can be successfully enforced. Clever drivers will soon spot the corners that aren't being watched.

"I am hapy to accept that point so long as you are CONSISTENT! I thus assume that you would NOT complain to the CoC about someone who overtook you or pulled AWAY from you, or closed UP 20 metres by doing EXACTLY the same thing (drivibng over the white lines) by cutting the bus stop at Kimbolton......."

Wrong. I'm fairly confident I could protest someone who missed an entire bus stop and win. I doubt I could protest someone who jumped the kerb at pylon and win even though, as you state, the crime is no different.

What I would find interesting is if someone did protest the entire field for kerb hopping. The rules are quite clear; would the MSA have any optiom but to disqualify all those protested?

Dave

Message Thread:

Spot on Itpro.  by 'raceinstructor'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:09)
This isn't new.  by 'DavyBoy'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:48)
not every circuit  by 'andrewf'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 9:46)
Re: not every circuit  by 'SimonS'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 21:46)
Re: not every circuit  by 'andrewf'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:12)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 22:27)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 23:06)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:08)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:16)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'raceinstructor'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:18)
Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:06)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:23)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:07)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:51)
Tripe  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:00)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:03)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:27)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:19)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:53)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:51)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:00)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:18)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:15)
So this is the rule that can't be relaxed!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:38)
Re: So this is the rule that can't be relaxed!  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:04)
And......  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:13)
4 ie whole of the kart!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:13)
Ahhhh haaa!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:30)
I don't know if I agree or disagree with.......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)
Re: I don't know if I agree or disagree with......  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:34)
I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:39)
Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:52)
Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:50)
You can't have a rule that covers all.......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:44)
Re: You can't have a rule that covers all.......  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:01)
Luckily every CoC in the Country is using........  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:39)
That's TRIPE Steve!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:08)
Re: That's TRIPE Steve!  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)
Historic, exactly!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:43)
I knew you'd missed the point!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:35)
Re: I knew you'd missed the point!  by 'itpro'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 16:42)
Not same size, but same shape!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 10:57)
Wrong........... yet AGAIN, Steve!  by 'itpro'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:12)
Play on words Ian!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:33)
I would be enforcing them as per MSA regs!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:40)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'SimonS'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:29)
When has the 'rule' ever been enforced  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 11:48)
Re: When has the 'rule' ever been enforced  by 'RobWallace'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:35)
Lucky it's only a disc protector.  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:46)
HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:02)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:32)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:02)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:04)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:09)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'alanrr'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:07)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)
Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over.....  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:46)
Re: Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over.....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:45)
I don't need to re write it,........  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:17)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:01)
Your inconsistencies are STUNNING!  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:06)
You saying Tony Temple........  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:41)
ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony.....  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:42)
Re: ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony.....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)
Rules with discretion are because no two.......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:23)
RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 17:58)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:25)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:13)
Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!!  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 22:47)
Re: Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!!  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:04)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:07)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:18)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:14)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:29)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'davidmc'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 9:36)
DavidMc  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)
Re: DavidMc  by 'davidmc'  << You are here!
Re: DavidMc  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:30)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:17)
itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 8:39)
Re: itpro  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:09)
Re: itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:39)
Re: itpro  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:57)
Re: itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:27)
Re: itpro  by 'Florent'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:51)
How unusual!  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:01)
Re: How unusual!  by 'Florent'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:13)
Re: How unusual!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:52)
You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:25)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:11)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:25)
Behave Ian, Florent is a great guy!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:15)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:23)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:28)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:32)
cont..  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:34)
Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:19)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:37)
English culture lessons for free!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:16)
Re: Is.....  by 'Aztech'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 22:30)
It's exciting, it's waht it must have been like...  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:57)
Re: Thats quite funy Steve...  by 'Aztech'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:03)
I could do it in a Jonathan Woss accent, but......  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:47)
Re: itpro  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 16:54)
Re: itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:26)
Re: lol  by 'MattBell'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 18:42)
Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'DanXP1'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:36)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'broke'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:57)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'MattBell'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:10)
Matt  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:21)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'RoadRat'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:41)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'DanXP1'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:55)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'MattBell'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 21:42)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'DanXP1'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 22:38)
Some answers to this.  by 'DavyBoy'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:20)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'adey8ball'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:59)
re the Clay chicane  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:32)
Matt  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:35)
Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc..  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:46)
Re: itpro  by 'MattBell'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)
Re: Mat  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:13)
Matt + Re: Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc..  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:14)

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