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Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh
Posted by 'SimonS' on 19 Oct 2008 @ 18:51


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" know I'd pay it, especially considering entry and test fees have increased very little"

That response sends a little shiver through me.

Simply because it says that (and it seems a fairly common response) drivers are prepared to complain about
a) the standard of drivers
b) the standard of marshalling

but aren't prepared to put in the effort personally to do anything about the problem.

I can see this being translated into a driving philosophy of "it doesn't matter if I fire someone off because it is the club's job to stop me".

clsmatt's point that they are new in the sport and they thought it was a no-contact sport is a good one; it is a no-contact sport but inevitably there will be racing incidents and also people encouraging drivers to 'make up the places' on the first lap or first corner. So it is up to the people who want to prevent bad driving taking two responsibilities, the first to avoid contact and teh second to help their club.

Sorry but suggesting that the average club can pay thousands of pounds to build in multiple CCTV cameras, with someone to observe them during the race or to pay for skilled? observers (as skilled as some of the marshals?) when the option of driver observers is there seems to me to mean that while many drivers are prepared to talk the talk, they aren't prepared to walk the walk.

As for increasing entry fees, when clubs have reduced entry fees they have seen 100% growth in the classes. I agree it is in co-operation with other efforts, but if the increase in drivers in TKM at Clay (for example) is a response to a 50% drop in prices, I hate to imagine what an 20% increase in prices will do!

Message Thread:

Controlling bad driving  by 'SimonS'   (18 Oct 2008 @ 10:06)
Re: Controlling bad driving  by 'scoobers49'   (18 Oct 2008 @ 10:16)
NatSKA used to do something similar with marshalls  by 'stecrmh51'   (18 Oct 2008 @ 10:20)
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'scoobers49'   (18 Oct 2008 @ 10:38)
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'clsmatt'   (18 Oct 2008 @ 12:38)
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'grimsbypirate'   (18 Oct 2008 @ 19:21)
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'SimonS'   (18 Oct 2008 @ 20:40)
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'clsmatt'   (18 Oct 2008 @ 21:59)
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'Canceric'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 11:50)
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'raceinstructor'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 12:18)
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'davidmc'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 15:06)
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'davidmc'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 15:02)
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'SimonS'  << You are here!
Re: NatSKA used to do something similar with marsh  by 'davidmc'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 21:14)
Re: Camera evidence is the way to go  by 'Chris34'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 21:20)
Re: Camera evidence is the way to go  by 'KevinW'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 22:02)
Re: Camera evidence is the way to go  by 'Boosta'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 22:39)
Re: Camera evidence is the way to go  by 'Graham S'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 22:43)
Re: Graham S  by 'Chris34'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 23:11)
Re: Shenington CCTV  by 'Graham S'   (19 Oct 2008 @ 23:46)
Re: Shenington CCTV  by 'Chris34'   (20 Oct 2008 @ 0:33)
Re: Shenington CCTV  by 'shaz'   (20 Oct 2008 @ 6:35)
Re: Shenington CCTV  by 'StepTZR250'   (20 Oct 2008 @ 13:54)
Re: Shenington CCTV  by 'Graham S'   (20 Oct 2008 @ 17:43)
re: cctv @ PFi  by 'timekeeper_uk'   (20 Oct 2008 @ 18:27)
Re: Shenington CCTV  by 'NikG'   (21 Oct 2008 @ 11:25)
Re: Shenington CCTV  by 'John'   (21 Oct 2008 @ 11:55)
Re: Shenington CCTV  by 'Graham S'   (21 Oct 2008 @ 14:19)
Re: Shenington CCTV  by 'chriskasch'   (21 Oct 2008 @ 14:41)
Re: Shenington CCTV  by 'Graham S'   (21 Oct 2008 @ 16:37)

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