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Re: think ive been ripped off
Posted by 'SimonS' on 14 Jul 2013 @ 19:06


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Have you been ripped off?

This from the Kosmic website

"ROCKY EXP is composed by a frame realized with Ø 28 mm tubes in molybdenum chrome steel with 900 mm wheelbase. It is available in the Basic version with OTK components in machined aluminium. It is provided with eccentric washers which allow the adjustment of the camber and caster. It is equipped with OTK MBS brake system, chromium-plated rear bumper and homologated bodyworks complete with stickers. Optional the aluminium foot-rest."
http://www.kosmickart.com/leggi_prodotto_en.php?ID_prodotto=941&ID_categoria=62&ID_macrocategoria=3

(Yes it is a cadet, 900mm wheelbase and narrow rear tyres) No price is given.

The similar OTK Rocky cadet is £1700 new +VAT (£340)

So you have yourself a £2000 kart for £1000

Is it legal?

Go to the Gold Book and find the cadet rules

"B1.3 Chassis. MSA homologated Cadet chassis only. The chassis must remain as
homologated in all respects and may only be subject to approved modifications for safety reasons.
A chassis manufacturer will be permitted to homologate one chassis model for any three year period
and homologations will last for a total of three successive periods (nine years). The current
homologation period for chassis and brakes commenced 1.1.2011; the next period will commence
1.1.2014. A full list of current homologated chassis is included in Appendix 1"

http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_forms/goldbooks/Gold_Book_2013.pdf

If you head off to Appendix 1 and look under Cadet (page 46 of above reference) you find

"Formula Cadet Chassis
Note that 2001 homologated chassis are no
longer eligible for use in Formula Cadet."

Then there's a 2004 , 2007 and 2011 homologations. the OTK Rocky UK is homologated in 2007.

So in 2014 you are likely to find that the Gold book will say that the 2004 homologation is no longer permitted, and thus three more years left in the 2007 homologation. ie: until the beginning of 2017.

Sorry if that's long winded, but as a new Cadet dad, you need to know how to use the Blue and Gold books.

It doesn't look a bad deal if the kart is genuinely unused (indeed if the bits are new, you have several hundred pounds worth in rims, brakes, plastics as kartparts charges £236 for a set of OTK cadet rims)

Tell the other half to hold off killing you for a while.

HTH

Message Thread:

think ive been ripped off  by 'marcgtt'   (13 Jul 2013 @ 22:32)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'Bucky'   (14 Jul 2013 @ 7:33)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'fatsam'   (14 Jul 2013 @ 8:46)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'dynamax'   (14 Jul 2013 @ 9:24)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'richydehav'   (14 Jul 2013 @ 9:21)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'fatsam'   (14 Jul 2013 @ 9:29)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'richydehav'   (14 Jul 2013 @ 11:30)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'SimonS'  << You are here!
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'marcgtt'   (14 Jul 2013 @ 22:25)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'kezz99'   (14 Jul 2013 @ 23:26)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'djcv8'   (15 Jul 2013 @ 9:15)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'JDsRs'   (15 Jul 2013 @ 11:01)
Re: think ive been ripped off  by 'hammerman'   (22 Jul 2013 @ 21:00)

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