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Re: cost breakdown
Posted by 'richydehav' on 18 Sep 2008 @ 14:59


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Sorry - hit the wrong button while I was typing so he we go again with the cost breakdown:-

Entry Fees
Stars £ 1,000.00
S1 £ 690.00
Club meetings £ 800.00
Total £ 2,490.00
This is based on 20 club meetings at £40.00 so could be a little different.
Practice Days
Stars £ 315.00
S1 £ 210.00
Clubs £ 750.00
Total £ 1,275.00
Tyres
Stars minimum £ 225.00
S1 minimum £ 790.00
Clubs £ 225.00
Total £ 1,240.00
Wet tyres have to be bagged for stars and S1 and Slicks for stars only. Could get away with just a set of slicks for clubs.
Race Fuel
Stars £ 250.00
S1 £ 250.00
Clubs £ 200.00
Total £ 700.00
Assumes 10 ltrs of Atol per meeting and pump fuel for clubs. Some people prefer to use Atol more so that they are testing on the race fuel.
Oils, chains, sprockets and bodywork
say a total of £ 500.00
Travel for 10k
miles at 25mpg £ 2,250.00
Engine rebuilds £ 750.00

Grand Total £ 8,905.00

My travel is in a motorhome so I have no hotel costs. No costs for food as we would have to eat if we were not karting. No allowance for accidental damage to kart, helmet, race suit or buying new kit as the driver grows. I have seen a driver bend a chassis beyond immediate repair and the dad have to buy a new/used chassis to carry on with the weekend.
So, all in all to do a fair amount of club racing plus Stars and S1 for a dad/kid team excluding equipment such as awning, generator, compressor and so on then about £9k would be a real minimum.
Join a team and have a regular mechanic and you can double, treble, quadruple this figure.
Even £9k is a lot of money especially as the sport is not tax deductible for most people so that makes it about £12k of earned income. Any kid who competes in Stars and S1 should consider themselves very lucky.
Yes, £20k per year is a bit stupid but I heard a lovely story last year - Parent gets out mobile phone at a club meeting and says to engine builder "I spent £20k with you this MONTH on engines - Why has someone just passed my kid on the straight?"
One of my daughter-in-laws is a nurse and sometimes works on a private yacht owned by a middle eastern billionaire. The cost to charter it and the supporting fleet (includes a sea plane, dive boat etc) is about £600k per week but it is not chartered very often as the guy likes it to be available just in case he fancies a cruise - how the other half live!!

Message Thread:

stars and s1 season cost?  by 'cosgrove78'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 16:21)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'John'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 16:27)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'richydehav'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 17:05)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'cosgrove78'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 18:05)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'John'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 18:19)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'neilw60dad'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 18:51)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'John'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 19:09)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'Dion'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 19:10)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'NikG'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 19:55)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'michaelg36'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 20:18)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'cadet44'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 20:42)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'Traxtar'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 21:00)
cadet engines  by 'SunnyJim'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:22)
Re: stars and s1 season cost, worth it?  by 'wildcard'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 9:45)
There are plenty of alternatives!  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:53)
Re: There are plenty of alternatives!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:09)
I wish I'd had time for coffee!  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 13:03)
Re: There are plenty of alternatives!  by 'bertie77'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:29)
Re: Someone has to pay!  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 18:12)
Of course it's right!  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:26)
Re: Of course it's right!  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 9:09)
And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'SteveC'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 10:43)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 11:06)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:41)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'RoadRat'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:07)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:43)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'RoadRat'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 18:46)
Re: Cheap motorsport NOT Cheap!  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:25)
John  by 'michaelg36'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:36)
Re: John  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:00)
Re: John  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:24)
Re: John  by 'Stig'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:31)
Re: John  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:52)
Re: John  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:17)
TRUE costs.  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 11:32)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'John'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 11:49)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 12:59)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 14:21)
Why p**sball about with club karting on 12k  by 'michaelg36'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:27)
add it up  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: add it up  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:44)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:29)
Davyboy  by 'michaelg36'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:36)
Re: Davyboy  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:43)
Re: Davyboy  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:45)
right its easy to work out  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 18:00)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'richydehav'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:11)
Re: stars and s1 season cost ?  by 'iant'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:43)
wow!!!! thanks richy  by 'cosgrove78'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:52)
Re: wow!!!! thanks richy  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 9:46)
thanks, thats what i was thinking.  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:09)
Re: thanks, thats what i was thinking.  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:37)
invaluble!! thats great  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)
Re: invaluble!! thats great  by 'Inter61'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:25)
Re: invaluble!! thats great  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:34)
Re: invaluble!! thats great  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 12:26)
ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:07)
Re: ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:17)
Re: ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:19)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'BradPits'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 23:15)
Good role model lol  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:57)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'Invader'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 13:09)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:04)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'richydehav'  << You are here!
Re: cost breakdown  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 15:40)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:04)
Re: cost breakdown - correction  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:17)
Re: cost breakdown - correction sounds good!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:23)
Re: cost breakdown - Genk weekend!  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 18:02)
thanks for all the info!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 18:30)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 17:56)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:19)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'RoadRat'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 17:55)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 19:47)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 19:54)
Re: Cosgrove78 - sorry forgot £3m of costs!  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 20:31)
£3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 20:50)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 20:53)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Cadet49Dad'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:09)
Re: Andy  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:14)
Re: Yes - the Tryton  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:20)
Re: Yes - the Tryton butnthe dogs had fun  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:29)
Excellent !! (nt)  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:10)
great stuff richy!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:31)
Re: great stuff richy!!  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:40)
well thanks for the mod!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:47)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:00)
thanks, ill test some more  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:25)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'cadet44'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:27)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:34)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'cadet44'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:43)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:11)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:57)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:27)
Re: It can't get any worse next year......  by 'cadet44'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:32)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:40)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:49)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:54)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 10:10)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Chris34'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 10:19)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 13:23)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 13:35)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:13)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'chriskasch'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:29)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:49)
Re: Hi 99  by 'KartingPete'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:37)
Re: Hi 99  by 'iant'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:48)
Re: Hi 99  by 'Hi99'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 18:15)
Re: How much for a Rotax Max season is S1 ?  by 'jc123rules'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 18:30)
Re: Cosgrove78 look what you started!!!  by 'richydehav'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:58)
Re: Cosgrove78 look what you started!!! O.M.G!!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 0:52)
Re: Cosgrove78 look what you started!!!  by 'alanrr'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 21:59)
ok gents, now its getting out of hand!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 23:07)

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