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Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!
Posted by 'Hi99' on 18 Sep 2008 @ 21:57


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Agree, great thread guys.

I can’t help but reflect on who benefits most from karting. It doesn’t take much to conclude it’s the manufacturers, teams, engine builders, traders, etc who really gain. According to the MSA there are about 5,000 kart licence holders. Assuming an average spend per karter of £3,000 per year (conservative estimate?) then the karting industry relieves US of about £15m per year!Do we get real value out of that? No way!

I don’t think there is much that we can do about it though. Most highly competitive sports where there is a “demand” end up driving up the cost. Look at what has happened in top tier football and F1 for two great examples. The difference in karting is that WE, the adults, drive up the costs, not our children. We drive the demand by wanting the best / latest / hottest karting “stuff” - not our kids. We get seduced by the thought of having a faster engine, or the best chassis, or being in a top team.

And guess what? We are stupid enough to fall for it and pay for it. It hurts at first, but then you get used to how much it costs and it’s not so painful the next time you put your hand in your pocket.

Someone has already mentioned that “obsession” takes hold, and I can see that. Maybe someone should start a “Karters Anonymous” association to help us!!

Do our kids see the benefit of all this spend? NO WAY!! I’m sure our children would be just as happy racing less sophisticated and cheaper karts if it was the same for everyone. Unfortunately we adults keep getting drawn by the lure of the shiny fast stuff!!!

Can’t wait for the weekend!!!

Message Thread:

stars and s1 season cost?  by 'cosgrove78'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 16:21)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'John'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 16:27)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'richydehav'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 17:05)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'cosgrove78'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 18:05)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'John'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 18:19)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'neilw60dad'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 18:51)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'John'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 19:09)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'Dion'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 19:10)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'NikG'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 19:55)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'michaelg36'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 20:18)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'cadet44'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 20:42)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'Traxtar'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 21:00)
cadet engines  by 'SunnyJim'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:22)
Re: stars and s1 season cost, worth it?  by 'wildcard'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 9:45)
There are plenty of alternatives!  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:53)
Re: There are plenty of alternatives!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:09)
I wish I'd had time for coffee!  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 13:03)
Re: There are plenty of alternatives!  by 'bertie77'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:29)
Re: Someone has to pay!  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 18:12)
Of course it's right!  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:26)
Re: Of course it's right!  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 9:09)
And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'SteveC'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 10:43)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 11:06)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:41)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'RoadRat'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:07)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:43)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'RoadRat'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 18:46)
Re: Cheap motorsport NOT Cheap!  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:25)
John  by 'michaelg36'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:36)
Re: John  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:00)
Re: John  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:24)
Re: John  by 'Stig'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:31)
Re: John  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:52)
Re: John  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:17)
TRUE costs.  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 11:32)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'John'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 11:49)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 12:59)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 14:21)
Why p**sball about with club karting on 12k  by 'michaelg36'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:27)
add it up  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: add it up  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:44)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:29)
Davyboy  by 'michaelg36'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:36)
Re: Davyboy  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:43)
Re: Davyboy  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:45)
right its easy to work out  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 18:00)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'richydehav'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:11)
Re: stars and s1 season cost ?  by 'iant'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:43)
wow!!!! thanks richy  by 'cosgrove78'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:52)
Re: wow!!!! thanks richy  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 9:46)
thanks, thats what i was thinking.  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:09)
Re: thanks, thats what i was thinking.  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:37)
invaluble!! thats great  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)
Re: invaluble!! thats great  by 'Inter61'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:25)
Re: invaluble!! thats great  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:34)
Re: invaluble!! thats great  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 12:26)
ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:07)
Re: ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:17)
Re: ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:19)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'BradPits'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 23:15)
Good role model lol  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:57)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'Invader'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 13:09)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:04)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:59)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 15:40)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:04)
Re: cost breakdown - correction  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:17)
Re: cost breakdown - correction sounds good!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:23)
Re: cost breakdown - Genk weekend!  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 18:02)
thanks for all the info!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 18:30)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 17:56)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:19)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'RoadRat'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 17:55)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 19:47)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 19:54)
Re: Cosgrove78 - sorry forgot £3m of costs!  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 20:31)
£3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 20:50)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 20:53)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Cadet49Dad'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:09)
Re: Andy  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:14)
Re: Yes - the Tryton  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:20)
Re: Yes - the Tryton butnthe dogs had fun  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:29)
Excellent !! (nt)  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:10)
great stuff richy!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:31)
Re: great stuff richy!!  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:40)
well thanks for the mod!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:47)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:00)
thanks, ill test some more  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:25)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'cadet44'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:27)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:34)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'cadet44'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:43)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:11)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'  << You are here!
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:27)
Re: It can't get any worse next year......  by 'cadet44'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:32)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:40)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:49)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:54)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 10:10)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Chris34'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 10:19)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 13:23)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 13:35)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:13)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'chriskasch'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:29)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:49)
Re: Hi 99  by 'KartingPete'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:37)
Re: Hi 99  by 'iant'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:48)
Re: Hi 99  by 'Hi99'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 18:15)
Re: How much for a Rotax Max season is S1 ?  by 'jc123rules'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 18:30)
Re: Cosgrove78 look what you started!!!  by 'richydehav'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:58)
Re: Cosgrove78 look what you started!!! O.M.G!!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 0:52)
Re: Cosgrove78 look what you started!!!  by 'alanrr'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 21:59)
ok gents, now its getting out of hand!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 23:07)

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