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Re: Fuel question for DavyBoy?
Posted by 'DavyBoy' on 30 Sep 2008 @ 10:16


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Steve, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.

1. Under MSA regulations, you're saying that its illegal to place additives in the petrol you use. However the petrol with additives is legal !!! You've lost me there.

2. The Police issue is an aside and I gave this to illustrate an extreme situation. If somebody at a race track was dispersing chemicals that are causing the people there pain or immediate danger, then its highly unlikely that the race organizers would allow them to continue doing it. In the event they did, you can involve the Police. Steve, you said that we are talking about situations where somebody can't breathe or has streaming eyes. This is an extreme H+S issue... not something to do with fuel cheating.

Let's get back to the original discussion. If either of the two situations below are rampant, then I agree that control fuel is required.

o There's a serious problem with fuel cheating AND the effect is a measureable difference in performance AND there is no way of detecting it by testing the fuel.

o There's a serious health and safety issue relating to free fuel being used AND the control fuel is safer.

The thing is, these do not appear issues at club level which is where the overwhelming majority of racing takes place. Were they rampant at national level ? Is there evidence of that ?

Message Thread:

Fuel question for DavyBoy?  by 'SteveC'   (28 Sep 2008 @ 12:10)
Re: Fuel question for DavyBoy?  by 'neilw60dad'   (28 Sep 2008 @ 17:21)
Re: Fuel question for DavyBoy?  by 'NJB'   (28 Sep 2008 @ 18:02)
Re: Fuel question for DavyBoy?  by 'SMoss31'   (28 Sep 2008 @ 18:21)
Re: Fuel question for DavyBoy?  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (28 Sep 2008 @ 18:42)
Re: MSA Protests  by 'TanglerTKM'   (28 Sep 2008 @ 19:15)
Re: MSA Protests  by 'kartcollector'   (28 Sep 2008 @ 20:08)
Re: MSA Protests  by 'kartingmum'   (28 Sep 2008 @ 20:40)
Re: Don't protest but talk  by 'richydehav'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 9:35)
Re: MSA Protests  by 'SteveC'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 11:33)
If you suspected someone you could protest.....  by 'SteveC'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 11:28)
The Garda system wouldn't stand up........  by 'SteveC'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 11:23)
Re: The Garda system wouldn't stand up........  by 'blobslosak'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 11:41)
Yes he did,.........  by 'SteveC'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 11:48)
Re: Yes he did,.........  by 'NJB'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 13:15)
I wish we could risk it!  by 'SteveC'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 13:32)
Re: I wish we could risk it!  by 'NJB'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 17:02)
Hopefully so, hence with Control Fuel....  by 'SteveC'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 9:26)
Re: Hopefully so, hence with Control Fuel....  by 'iant'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 9:31)
And why wouldn't it happen at non MSA racing?  by 'SteveC'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 9:45)
Re: Hopefully so, hence with Control Fuel....  by 'NJB'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 10:20)
Re: Hopefully so, hence with Control Fuel....  by 'iant'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 11:00)
No laughing matter!  by 'SteveC'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 11:06)
You're a business man!  by 'SteveC'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 11:04)
Re: You're a business man!  by 'davidmc'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 12:48)
Re: You're a business man!  by 'NikG'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 13:33)
Re: You're a business man!  by 'bluetoo'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 14:49)
Re: You're a business man!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 20:16)
Re: Fuel question for DavyBoy?  by 'DavyBoy'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 13:30)
Re: Fuel question for DavyBoy?  by 'SteveC'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 13:42)
Re: Fuel question for DavyBoy?  by 'DavyBoy'   (29 Sep 2008 @ 14:42)
Re: Fuel question for DavyBoy?  by 'SteveC'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 9:34)
Re: Fuel question for DavyBoy?  by 'DavyBoy'  << You are here!
Sorry was supposed to say  by 'SteveC'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 11:10)
Is it really that big a problem?  by 'NJB'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 10:19)
I don't think it is.  by 'DavyBoy'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 10:33)
Not at the time it wasn't!  by 'SteveC'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 11:16)
Re: Not at the time it wasn't!  by 'DavyBoy'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 12:05)
The police response......  by 'SteveC'   (02 Oct 2008 @ 11:37)
Re: The police response......  by 'DavyBoy'   (02 Oct 2008 @ 16:17)
Not any more, no!  by 'SteveC'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 11:13)
Re: Not any more, no!  by 'broke'   (30 Sep 2008 @ 14:17)
Karting is my hobby....  by 'SteveC'   (02 Oct 2008 @ 11:54)
Sorry just re read it!  by 'SteveC'   (02 Oct 2008 @ 11:56)
Re: Karting is my hobby....  by 'NJB'   (02 Oct 2008 @ 12:15)
There are some making money out of the.....  by 'SteveC'   (02 Oct 2008 @ 17:48)
Re: There are some making money out of the.....  by 'NJB'   (02 Oct 2008 @ 18:31)
Re: There are some making money out of the.....  by 'NJB'   (03 Oct 2008 @ 8:48)
Paul Fletcher always said.....  by 'SteveC'   (03 Oct 2008 @ 11:48)
Re: Paul Fletcher always said.....  by 'NJB'   (03 Oct 2008 @ 12:29)
Aye, not too many do tho'!  by 'SteveC'   (03 Oct 2008 @ 13:13)
Re: Aye, not too many do tho'!  by 'NJB'   (03 Oct 2008 @ 17:06)
It's the same principle as.......  by 'SteveC'   (04 Oct 2008 @ 7:49)

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