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...and the 'top hat' on it misses the point :-(
Posted by 'DavyBoy' on 14 Apr 2010 @ 08:52


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DavyBoy
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Ian, you've missed my point.

You've quoted some stats below comparing young drivers to everyone else on the road. I know they are fact and I wouldn't for a moment disagree with them. These stats have been more or less the same for decades. There's nothing new here.

Insurance companies have also been allowed to openly discriminate for decades, charging young drivers [irrespective of experience] punitive amounts of money to get onto the road. This has made no difference to the stats above.

If these stats on young drivers are a problem, please tell me why that in almost 30 years there hasn't been :

1. A major reform in the driving process so that the education process is longer, the test is more difficult, probationary periods exist, there are speed governers on cars etc...

2. An increase in the minimum age for driving to 25 or 30 or whatever ?

3. Any other measures to reduce those stats ?

Discrimination is discrimination... be it on race, creed, age or sex. To tar an entire group of people because some among that group have done badly is entirely wrong. The solution is to fix the underlying problem.

Do you understand my point now ?

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quin direct going into administration  by 'rich84'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 14:32)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 15:35)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'rich84'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 16:06)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 17:06)
Davy..... total TRIPE!  by 'itpro'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:10)
itpro, not quite  by 'michaelg36'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 20:53)
Re: Davy..... total TRIPE!  by 'PaulMRotax'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 21:28)
Oh No Ian, Not TRIPE Ian... Not TRIPE at all !  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 21:51)
Re: Oh No Ian, Not TRIPE Ian... Not TRIPE at all  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 0:04)
I haven't read most of this thread, but....  by 'alanrr'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 0:38)
Re: I haven't read most of this thread, but....  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 1:05)
...and the 'top hat' on it is as follows:  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 1:19)
...and the 'top hat' on it misses the point :-(  by 'DavyBoy'  << You are here!
Davy  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:24)
Re: Davy  by 'DavyBoy'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:41)
experience  by 'rich84'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:45)
Re: experience...... most amusing!  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:58)
Re: experience  by 'SimonS'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:34)
Re: experience  by '89cc'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 12:16)
Re: experience  by 'rich84'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 13:58)
Re: experience  by '89cc'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 14:33)
Re: experience  by '89cc'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 14:37)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:50)
OK.  by 'DavyBoy'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 12:45)
Persecution......  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 12:55)
Re: Persecution......  by 'DavyBoy'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 13:11)
Re: Persecution......  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 14:44)
Re: Persecution......  by 'DavyBoy'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:20)
Re: Persecution......  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:31)
Re: Persecution......  by 'DavyBoy'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:53)
Re: Persecution......  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:03)
Re: Persecution......  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:17)
Re: Persecution......  by 'DavyBoy'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 17:00)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:08)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:20)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:09)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:21)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:24)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:35)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'DavyBoy'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:27)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'davidmc'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:31)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:37)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:52)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'davidmc'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:13)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:19)
Re: Persecution......Davy  by 'davidmc'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:22)
I missed a bit.....  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:42)
...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :-  by 'SimonS'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:19)
Simon  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:33)
Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :-  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:33)
Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :-  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:36)
Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :-  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:50)
Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :-  by 'SimonS'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:43)
Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :-  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:56)
Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :-  by 'brinjono'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 14:29)
Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :-  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 14:34)
Of course old people over forty have less.....  by 'alanrr'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 22:56)
Good old Alan......  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 1:24)
Questions for you Ian ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 10:22)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 10:48)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 10:55)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:22)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:14)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:24)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:40)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:48)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'DavyBoy'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 13:04)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:52)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'DavyBoy'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 21:13)
Errrrr ...... Davy.....  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:34)
Re: Errrrr ...... Davy.....  by 'DavyBoy'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 17:21)
Re: Errrrr ...... Davy....errr... think it through  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 18:19)
Re: Errrrr ...... Davy....errr... think it through  by 'DavyBoy'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 20:01)
Re: Errrrr ...... Davy....errr... think it through  by 'itpro'   (19 Apr 2010 @ 11:44)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 22:17)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:35)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'alanrr'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 22:52)
Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:34)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 10:54)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:11)
Davy  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:25)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:34)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:48)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:59)
Dave...  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:55)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 12:04)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'Gillard77'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 12:28)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 12:31)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:00)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'Gillard77'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:12)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:24)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'Gillard77'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:50)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:05)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:57)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:33)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:53)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'harvinsurrey'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 9:00)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'Gillard77'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 13:04)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'harvinsurrey'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 13:12)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 16:22)
Re: Questions for you Ian ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 13:40)
Surely theres an easy solution?  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 14:52)
Re: Surely theres an easy solution?  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:28)
Re: Surely theres an easy solution?  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:40)
Tangler  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:10)
Ooops.... typo!  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:12)
Re: Ooops.... typo!  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:11)
Re: Tangler  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:14)
Re: Tangler  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:41)
Re: Tangler (and also..to answer your question)  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:32)
Re: Tangler (and also..to answer your question)  by 'Gillard77'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:43)
Re: Tangler (and also..to answer your question)  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 18:09)
Re: Tangler (and also..to answer your question)  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:48)
Re: Tangler......  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:47)
Re: Tangler......  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 1:21)
Re: Tangler......  by 'harvinsurrey'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 9:04)
Re: Tangler......  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 11:09)
Re: Tangler......  by 'harvinsurrey'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 13:31)
Ian you're being pedantic again :P  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 14:22)
Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P  by 'harvinsurrey'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 15:12)
Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 16:03)
Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 16:49)
Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 17:03)
Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 17:33)
Now who's being pedantic!  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 18:13)
Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 19:06)
Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P  by 'itpro'   (17 Apr 2010 @ 0:59)
Re: Good old Alan......  by 'alanrr'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 21:45)
Re: Good old Alan......  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:55)
continued  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 1:00)
Re: continued  by 'alanrr'   (17 Apr 2010 @ 21:49)
Re: continued  by 'itpro'   (19 Apr 2010 @ 20:43)
Re: continued  by 'alanrr'   (23 Apr 2010 @ 0:08)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by '89cc'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 16:06)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'rich84'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 16:09)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by '89cc'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 16:13)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'jnrblue91'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 16:40)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'FullCanRacer'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 17:52)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'SAS'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 17:57)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by '89cc'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:58)
Full can........  by 'itpro'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:17)
Come on Rich........ tell us the truth.,.,....  by 'itpro'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:12)
Re: Come on Rich........ tell us the truth.,.,....  by 'mskart22'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:18)
Re: Come on Rich........ tell us the truth.,.,....  by 'itpro'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:23)
continued.....  by 'itpro'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:33)
itpro  by 'rich84'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:50)
Re: itpro  by 'mskart22'   (13 Apr 2010 @ 20:42)
Re: itpro  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 0:27)
Here are some of the FACTS that you should know  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 0:53)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'rich84'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:41)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:13)
Typo  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:14)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:18)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:35)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:44)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:00)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:10)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:16)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:27)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 17:21)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 18:07)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:45)
Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:50)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:06)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:11)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:40)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:59)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 17:17)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 17:32)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 18:09)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 18:19)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:21)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:39)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:50)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:55)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 21:29)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:13)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:19)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:05)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 1:08)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'harvinsurrey'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 9:37)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:58)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'harvinsurrey'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 20:09)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 20:14)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2010 @ 21:35)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 1:29)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'Doink'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 9:12)
Re: quin direct going into administration  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 10:28)
what a beast of a thread  by 'rich84'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 14:30)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:24)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'Doink'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:06)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:54)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'Doink'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 18:59)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'JoeKarter'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 19:26)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 21:03)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'DavyBoy'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 21:15)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 22:13)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'harvinsurrey'   (15 Apr 2010 @ 22:16)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 1:12)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'DavyBoy'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 8:11)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 12:13)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'DavyBoy'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 17:39)
Davy.... a bit a 'OxyMoron' there!  by 'itpro'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 18:24)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'DavyBoy'   (16 Apr 2010 @ 19:56)
Welll..... that's questionable.....  by 'itpro'   (17 Apr 2010 @ 1:10)
Re: what a beast of a thread  by 'DavyBoy'   (17 Apr 2010 @ 9:34)

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