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Re: TT...for Vic Part 2
Posted by 'vic' on 14 Jun 2010 @ 15:41

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“If someone died at EVERY annual running of the Boxing Championships (e.g., the Olympics) you'd be with ME 'manning the barricades' to BLOCK such a barbaric waste of LIVES!”
Wrong again. (beginning to see a pattern here!) As long as there is no compulsion, I let people decide how to spend their own lives,. Let their FAMILIES persuade them not to compete. Oh…..and since when has the Olympics been an annual event?

“So....... tell me EXACTLY what it is SO SPECIAL about Bikers that you allow the more STUPID ones of them to risk their lives FOR *Y*O*U*R* P*L*E*A*S*U*R*E when you KNOW at least ONE of them will DIE on E*V*E*R*Y occasion that the event is RUN!”
You just don’t get it do you? They don’t do it for MY pleasure…..they do it for there OWN! Just like I used to go hang gliding ( which in its early days had a much worse fatality rate than the TT) without ANY spectators AT ALL. The majority of TT riders would STILL compete if NOBODY watched it.

“How can you be prepared to even CONSIDER watching it when you KNOW (not 'fear', nor 'suspect', not 'guess' but ......K*N*O*W) that at least ONE of the competitors W*I*L*L D*I*E every DAMNED TIME??????

.......I know VERY well what that reason is but I want you to STATE IT!!!!!!”

Well….I am glad you know the reason….perhaps you could tell me, ‘cos I don’t! All I DO know, is that last time I went to the TT (about 15 years ago!), the atmosphere was without parallel, and the experience of watching a racing motorcycle whiz past centimetres from my nose, at over 150 was something that NO track can give. Yes, witnessing crashes was unpleasant ( I saw 2 during my years there), but there are downsides to everything. The people who experience those crashes have the right to decide if they want to try again…they have far more right than I do

“Then we'll find the EXACT connection to my 'Gladiatoral' example, won't we!!!!!!!!

Things you would not TOLERATE at any OTHER sporting event are 'OK' in YOUR eyes for the TT! And THAT's called HYPOCRISY!”
Ah.but, as I have pointed out…you are making the erroneous assumption on my views of other events. So, I reject the hypocrisy jibe.

“The TT IS 'special' to you lot and we ALL knows WHY!”
Yes….because many of the other respondants have ridden bikes…and probably been to the TT. And, if you have ever ridden the mountain with the throttle wide, and your heart in your mouth, and then been blasted into the weeds by a German on a BMW, with the cylinder heads kicking up sparks from the tarmac, you would understand the magic.

C’mon Ian…you have stated many times how you would fight for the rights of people to run their own lives. And yet, here you are, acting like the last government. Wanting to take control. Have you been studying Mao’s little red book a bit too closely?

When you have your wish, and the TT is taken away, then the NEXT most dangerous motorsport becomes the target. Then the next. And so on. The argument is exactly the same in each case.

If you had stated as your argument that you would ban TELEVISING the TT, you might have had more support. There, your attempt at equating it with Gladitorial combat may have stood a little firmer. However, it stil falls at the first fence….the INTENT. You may be surprised at this…those who race in the TT don’t actually WANT to crash…it is accidental. Gladiators INTEND to do harm. That’s the difference, and you (with your Psychology degree) should be aware of that.

Message Thread:

TT...for Ian by 'vic' (12 Jun 2010 @ 21:26)

Re: TT...for Ian by 'jtthedevil' (13 Jun 2010 @ 13:00)

Re: TT...for Ian by 'Smileyman' (13 Jun 2010 @ 16:38)

theres one simple question....... by 'Aquila' (13 Jun 2010 @ 18:14)

Certainty * by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 9:39)

Re: Certainty * by 'Newshound' (14 Jun 2010 @ 10:10)

Re: Certainty * by 'Newshound' (14 Jun 2010 @ 11:37)

Re: Certainty * by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 12:18)

Re: Certainty * by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 12:59)

Re: Certainty * by 'RotaxTim' (14 Jun 2010 @ 11:30)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 12:51)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'richpudd2003' (14 Jun 2010 @ 13:56)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 14:21)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'richpudd2003' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:03)

Re: TT...Rich...... by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:25)

Re: TT...Rich by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:12)

For Goodness Sake.......... by 'Newshound' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:36)

Re: For Goodness Sake.......... by 'richpudd2003' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:41)

Newshound....... by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 17:52)

Disgraceful Ian............ by 'Newshound' (14 Jun 2010 @ 18:03)

Re: Disgraceful Ian............ by 'SteveGraves' (14 Jun 2010 @ 18:10)

Re: TT...Rich by 'richpudd2003' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:38)

Re: TT...Rich by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 18:02)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'PMN' (14 Jun 2010 @ 14:22)

Re: TT...for PNM by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:32)

Re: TT...for Vic Part 1 by 'vic' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:40)

Re: TT...for Vic Part 2 by 'vic' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:41)

Re: TT...for Vic Part 2 by 'vic' << You are here!

Re: TT...for Vic Part 2 by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 17:49)

Re: TT...for Vic Part 2 by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 17:41)

Sad but true by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 20:30)

Re: Sad but true by 'Aquila' (14 Jun 2010 @ 20:48)

Re: Sad but true - DavyBoy by 'dm8558' (14 Jun 2010 @ 21:16)

Re: Sad but true by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 21:29)

Re: Sad but true by 'Aquila' (14 Jun 2010 @ 21:35)

Re: Sad but true by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 21:56)

Re: davy-boy by 'Smileyman' (15 Jun 2010 @ 9:46)

Re: Sad but true by 'Hootsman' (14 Jun 2010 @ 21:55)

Re: TT...for Vic Part 2 by 'davidmc' (14 Jun 2010 @ 22:44)

Re: TT...your reply, Ian by 'vic' (15 Jun 2010 @ 14:27)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'alanrr' (15 Jun 2010 @ 11:48)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'kudos' (17 Jun 2010 @ 20:27)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'vic' (18 Jun 2010 @ 6:18)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'BrianP' (18 Jun 2010 @ 8:33)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'Newshound' (18 Jun 2010 @ 8:41)

Old bold bikers by 'DavyBoy' (18 Jun 2010 @ 10:34)

Re: Old bold bikers by 'BrianP' (18 Jun 2010 @ 11:36)

Re: Old bold bikers by 'Newshound' (18 Jun 2010 @ 11:44)

newshound....will start a new thread by 'kudos' (18 Jun 2010 @ 21:46)

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