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Re: TT...for Vic Part 2
Posted by 'itpro' on 14 Jun 2010 @ 17:41

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Vic.... you are getting careless. You've done what I wanted.... hence the goading:-

"I would NOT object if the driver himself (or herself?) decided to [go without a helmet]. They are adults, they know the risk"

I still don't believe you mean that, I do not believe that you WOULD allow racers to race without a helmet, because, like every one else, you KNOW there are morons out there who WOULD do so and need to be protected from their OWN STUPIDITY.... regardless of their own opinions!

However, I'll accept your point that you DO mean it as it shows quite clearly that you are NOT the sort of person who should be ALLOWED to decide what is safe or not! Period! Hence your shocking poor judgement over the TT!

Let's run that through.....

Does the same logic "they are all adults, let THEM decide" also apply to helmets on the ROAD?

Does it apply to SEAT BELTS on the ROAD?

Does it apply to being allowed to take any DRUGS that they choose???

Does that allow me to watch a crash on the road and just walk-bye a burning car with people trapped inside....?

Does that allow the Lifboat crews, mountain rescue teams, pit safety offices to simply LET the people in difficulties DIE?

After all, in ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of those example:- "they are ALL ADULTS, they know [knew] the risks" applies PERFECTLY!

Possibly, you are the sort of person who feels that ANY/ALL adults are allowed to take ANY/ALL risks no matter WHAT the outcome without lifting a FINGER to help protect them..... I am NOT!

As kid, I believed that Drink Driving, at levels that today would be illegal, was ACCEPTABLE! I was an ADULT, I THOUGHT I knew the risks, I drove after drinking the equivalent of 2 pints because I WRONGLY thought it WAS safe. Wiser men than I, ENFORCED the law on me until I was MATURE enough realised how STUPID my view had been! I suspect YOU had the same sort of views as I did AT THE TIME because MOST of us did until it became illegal! Had society not dfecided that I could not be TRUSTED to make that judgement, there's a reasonable chance I nould not have SURVIVED.... So... that's ANOTHER example where I thank 'society' for REMOVING my PERMISSION to 'decide'!

Taking your peculiar view to its limit; you end up with the situation where no Kart Racer should be allowed to use a National Health ambulance..... becasue.....

".....your are an adult and you knew the risks before you STARTED the race......"

To remain consistent, you now have to explain why ALL the abover examples do NOT fall under5 your:-=

'they are all adults, they know the risks'.

I suspect that you CAN'T....... we'll see!

Ian

Message Thread:

TT...for Ian by 'vic' (12 Jun 2010 @ 21:26)

Re: TT...for Ian by 'jtthedevil' (13 Jun 2010 @ 13:00)

Re: TT...for Ian by 'Smileyman' (13 Jun 2010 @ 16:38)

theres one simple question....... by 'Aquila' (13 Jun 2010 @ 18:14)

Certainty * by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 9:39)

Re: Certainty * by 'Newshound' (14 Jun 2010 @ 10:10)

Re: Certainty * by 'Newshound' (14 Jun 2010 @ 11:37)

Re: Certainty * by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 12:18)

Re: Certainty * by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 12:59)

Re: Certainty * by 'RotaxTim' (14 Jun 2010 @ 11:30)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 12:51)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'richpudd2003' (14 Jun 2010 @ 13:56)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 14:21)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'richpudd2003' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:03)

Re: TT...Rich...... by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:25)

Re: TT...Rich by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:12)

For Goodness Sake.......... by 'Newshound' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:36)

Re: For Goodness Sake.......... by 'richpudd2003' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:41)

Newshound....... by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 17:52)

Disgraceful Ian............ by 'Newshound' (14 Jun 2010 @ 18:03)

Re: Disgraceful Ian............ by 'SteveGraves' (14 Jun 2010 @ 18:10)

Re: TT...Rich by 'richpudd2003' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:38)

Re: TT...Rich by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 18:02)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'PMN' (14 Jun 2010 @ 14:22)

Re: TT...for PNM by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:32)

Re: TT...for Vic Part 1 by 'vic' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:40)

Re: TT...for Vic Part 2 by 'vic' (14 Jun 2010 @ 15:41)

Re: TT...for Vic Part 2 by 'itpro' (14 Jun 2010 @ 17:49)

Re: TT...for Vic Part 2 by 'itpro' << You are here!

Sad but true by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 20:30)

Re: Sad but true by 'Aquila' (14 Jun 2010 @ 20:48)

Re: Sad but true - DavyBoy by 'dm8558' (14 Jun 2010 @ 21:16)

Re: Sad but true by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 21:29)

Re: Sad but true by 'Aquila' (14 Jun 2010 @ 21:35)

Re: Sad but true by 'DavyBoy' (14 Jun 2010 @ 21:56)

Re: davy-boy by 'Smileyman' (15 Jun 2010 @ 9:46)

Re: Sad but true by 'Hootsman' (14 Jun 2010 @ 21:55)

Re: TT...for Vic Part 2 by 'davidmc' (14 Jun 2010 @ 22:44)

Re: TT...your reply, Ian by 'vic' (15 Jun 2010 @ 14:27)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'alanrr' (15 Jun 2010 @ 11:48)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'kudos' (17 Jun 2010 @ 20:27)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'vic' (18 Jun 2010 @ 6:18)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'BrianP' (18 Jun 2010 @ 8:33)

Re: TT...for Vic by 'Newshound' (18 Jun 2010 @ 8:41)

Old bold bikers by 'DavyBoy' (18 Jun 2010 @ 10:34)

Re: Old bold bikers by 'BrianP' (18 Jun 2010 @ 11:36)

Re: Old bold bikers by 'Newshound' (18 Jun 2010 @ 11:44)

newshound....will start a new thread by 'kudos' (18 Jun 2010 @ 21:46)

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