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Re: Ok, you two!
Posted by 'davidmc' on 13 Aug 2010 @ 15:13


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My claim regarding HGV's isn't that they are comparable to the type of speed limiter fitted, only that it was regulated that they should be fitted, they were fitted, and the same could apply to speed limiters on cars.

Why does it have to detect trailers? Speed cameras are not infallable; speed limiters don't have to be either. I don't believe speed cameras currently detect trailers but I may be wrong.

I don't have to tell you how it would work, only that it could, if we wished it to be so. It is not outside the realms of possibility to limit a vehicles speed to match the advertised speed limit in a given area. There are a multitude of methods that could be used in isolation or conjunction. The engineering required to develop such a sytem are no more difficult than those faced when developing speed cameras. There are many things that I cannot describe the workings of, but I know they do or could work.

Why does my system have to make a profit? I thought the point was to reduce RTA's? Are you telling me a one off cost of £X to effectively manage speeding would not be worth it? Further, the fact that cameras can be self-financing shows that they don't have a very high success rate. You can't have a self-financing yet fully effective system for controlling speed the whole time the cameras are financed by people speeding. It is logically impossible.

I haven't abandoned RFID at all. I simply used it as an example of the type of technology that could used.

Your claims about what does and does not work are as spurious as you claim mine to be yet you hide behind contractual obligations. I have a background in systems engineering (as I think Davyboy does) so I'm well aware of the limits of technology. It is only the placing of arbitrary obstacles (such as your trailer example) that stop such a system being put in place. If Government put the design out to tender there would be a multitude of companies with feasible propositions that would do more to control speeding than the cameras currently do.

Again, why does it have to be as safe and reliable as Gatso's if it is more capable of generally controlling speeding? Nobody is claiming such a system would be foolproof, but it could certainly be an improvement. It could even start as just the basic speed limiter as fitted to trucks.

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We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 17:53)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Aquila'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 18:43)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:06)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Aquila'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:45)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 21:12)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Aquila'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 21:21)
Its 2010  by 'DavyBoy'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 21:29)
Re: Its 2010  by 'Aquila'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 21:36)
Re: Its 2010  by 'itpro'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 22:03)
The oddest thing is.  by 'AlfieMoon'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 22:06)
Re: The oddest thing is.  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 1:10)
Re: The oddest thing is.  by 'AlfieMoon'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 13:51)
Re: The oddest thing is.  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 16:22)
Re: Its 2010.... Davy  by 'itpro'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 21:59)
Re: Its 2010.... Davy  by 'DavyBoy'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 14:17)
Re: Its 2010.... Davy  by 'Traxtar'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 15:10)
Re: Its 2010.... Davy  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 16:29)
Re: Its 2010.... Davy  by 'DavyBoy'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 18:42)
Re: Its 2010.... Davy  by 'RoadRat'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 18:53)
Re: Its 2010.... RoadRat  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 22:04)
Re: Its 2010.... Davy  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 21:58)
Its not quite the same Ian  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 8:47)
Re: Its not quite the same Ian  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 10:13)
Re: Its not quite the same Ian  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 11:46)
Re: Its not quite the same Ian  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 13:33)
Re: Its not quite the same Ian  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 16:17)
Re: Its not quite the same Ian  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 16:31)
Re: Its not quite the same Ian  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 17:53)
Re: Its not quite the same Ian  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 10:42)
Re: Its not quite the same Ian  by 'davidmc'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 14:06)
Of COURSE I support the development of limiters  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 14:53)
Re: Its not quite the same Ian  by 'davidmc'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 18:27)
Ok, you two!  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 10:55)
Re: Ok, you two!  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 11:29)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 11:42)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 13:56)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 14:43)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:13)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'davidmc'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:17)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:40)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:51)
Re: Itpro  by 'davidmc'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 16:01)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 16:20)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 17:57)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'itpro'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 14:09)
Itpro  by 'davidmc'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 15:00)
Re: Ok, you two! Hang on....  by 'itpro'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 21:10)
Re: Ok, you two!  by 'davidmc'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 11:53)
Re: Ok, you two!  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 12:14)
Re: Ok, you two!  by 'davidmc'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 13:07)
Re: Ok, you two!  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 14:32)
Re: Ok, you two!  by 'RoadRat'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:06)
RoadRat  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 16:08)
Re: Ok, you two!  by 'davidmc'  << You are here!
Re: Ok, you two!  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:53)
Re: Ok, you two!  by 'Traxtar'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 18:10)
Re: Ok, you two!  by 'itpro'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 21:15)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Aquila'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 21:31)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 22:01)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 21:56)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'RoadRat'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 11:23)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 20:55)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Newshound'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 21:14)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 21:34)
Re: We'll see....... Newshound  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 21:54)
Re: We'll see....... Newshound  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 7:45)
Re: We'll see....... Newshound  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 10:19)
Re: We'll see....... Newshound  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 18:44)
Here's the 'WINNER' by Paul!  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 11:27)
Re: Here's the 'WINNER' by Paul!  by 'PaulMRotax'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 18:40)
Re: Here's the 'WINNER' by Paul!  by 'itpro'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 12:25)
Re: Here's the 'WINNER' by Paul!  by 'PaulMRotax'   (17 Aug 2010 @ 21:15)
Paul.....  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 22:07)
Re: Paul.....  by 'Doink'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 0:11)
Re: Paul.....  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 10:29)
Re: Paul.....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 18:47)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Newshound'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 22:20)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'stevenw'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 1:08)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Aquila'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 7:30)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 7:39)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Newshound'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 8:58)
Newshound  by 'stevenw'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 9:05)
Re: Newshound  by 'Newshound'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 9:09)
Re: Newshound  by 'stevenw'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 9:20)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 18:49)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 7:51)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'RoadRat'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 8:38)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Aquila'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 9:00)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 10:07)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'RoadRat'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 11:18)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 11:44)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Doink'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 12:00)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 13:34)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'RoadRat'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 12:25)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 13:26)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'davidmc'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 18:51)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 11:01)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'davidmc'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 12:02)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 12:19)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'davidmc'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 13:12)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Aquila'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 12:12)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Newshound'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 13:41)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 13:48)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 13:45)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Aquila'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 14:13)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 14:40)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 18:54)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 11:03)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'buzzinrussell'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 14:38)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Aquila'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 14:41)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 14:47)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 14:45)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Gillard77'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 16:36)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'Newshound'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 16:53)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'davidmc'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 19:04)
Newshound  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 11:33)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'buzzinrussell'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 20:54)
Be careful Russ.......  by 'Newshound'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 21:24)
Re: Be careful Russ.......  by 'buzzinrussell'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 22:15)
Re: Be careful Russ.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 22:35)
Re: We'll see.......  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 11:45)
Firmly touching wood as I type.  by 'RoadRat'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 18:44)
Did I really say that.......  by 'RoadRat'   (14 Aug 2010 @ 7:40)
Re: Did I really say that.......  by 'Doink'   (14 Aug 2010 @ 12:21)
For those who think I claim to be perfect....  by 'itpro'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 12:36)
Re: For those who think I claim to be perfect....  by 'Gillard77'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 15:30)
Re: For those who think I claim to be perfect....  by 'itpro'   (17 Aug 2010 @ 0:05)
Re: For those who think I claim to be perfect....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (19 Aug 2010 @ 7:48)
Gillard  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 11:29)
Re: Gillard  by 'Gillard77'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 13:01)

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