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Posted by 'itpro' on 08 Mar 2012 @ 11:35


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The dead give-away is that Paul actually thinks that the Porsche handles WELL!

At this moment, I have TWO 911s (and my Elise) in my barn (I store some cars for a trader-mate). One's an Air Cooled Carrera and the other is a much later 997. Both handle APPALLINGLY! The grip level of both is good but the SNAP reaction on this limit and the simply SHOCKING snap-oversteer on lift-off of BOTH should have made them withdraw the 911 from production THIRTY YEARS AGO!

The later models with 'electronic aids do a BETTER job of disguising the lift-off oversteer..... up to the point when no amount of clever electronics can HIDE the fact that Porsche mounted the engine in the WRONG PLACE from DAY ONE.... they only did THAT because the 911 was a VW Beetle tarted up in the FIRST place.

The electronics simply cannot hide the APPALINGLY BAD weight distribution and simple physics take over near the limit, no matter WHAT poor drivers tell you!

The people who tell you that 911s HANDLE well don't know the difference between handling, GRIP and traction! Hence Paul's mindless comments that he's probably got from Clarkson in the first place! He's never driven a kart and he CERTAINLY hasn't driven Elises or 911s! The Cayman is DIFFERENT beast, much though it pains me to admit that!

Ian

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Sky Sports F1 on now  by 'Doink'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 15:58)
Re: Sky Sports F1 on now  by 'itpro'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 16:03)
Re: Sky Sports F1 on now  by 'Doink'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 17:04)
Re: Sky Sports F1 on now  by 'itpro'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 17:24)
Cont....  by 'itpro'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 17:27)
Re: Cont....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 17:48)
Re: Cont....Itpro  by 'Doink'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 17:58)
Re: Cont....  by 'DavyBoy'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 18:05)
IAN you are joking !?!  by 'Traxtar'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 18:31)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'Aquila'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 22:53)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'itpro'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 23:18)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'DavyBoy'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 9:31)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'itpro'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 14:16)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'DavyBoy'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 14:30)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'itpro'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 14:42)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'DavyBoy'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 15:09)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'itpro'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 16:20)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'Aquila'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 21:09)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'Aquila'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 21:13)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'itpro'   (03 Mar 2012 @ 0:22)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'Aquila'   (03 Mar 2012 @ 1:01)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'DavyBoy'   (03 Mar 2012 @ 18:15)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'Aquila'   (03 Mar 2012 @ 18:58)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'Doink'   (03 Mar 2012 @ 19:08)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'DavyBoy'   (03 Mar 2012 @ 19:59)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'Aquila'   (03 Mar 2012 @ 20:23)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'Rafe005'   (03 Mar 2012 @ 22:01)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'itpro'   (04 Mar 2012 @ 18:15)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'Rafe005'   (04 Mar 2012 @ 19:33)
Rafe......  by 'itpro'   (06 Mar 2012 @ 10:30)
Re: Rafe......  by 'Rafe005'   (06 Mar 2012 @ 14:59)
Re: Rafe......  by 'itpro'   (06 Mar 2012 @ 16:33)
Re: Rafe......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (06 Mar 2012 @ 17:39)
Re: Rafe......  by 'Rafe005'   (06 Mar 2012 @ 19:57)
Re: Rafe......  by 'Rafe005'   (06 Mar 2012 @ 20:02)
Re: Rafe......  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 11:16)
Re: Rafe......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 12:34)
Re: Rafe......  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 16:01)
Re: Rafe......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 16:50)
Re: Rafe......  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 17:28)
Re: Rafe......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 18:03)
Re: Rafe......  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 18:20)
.... cont....  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 18:26)
Re: Rafe......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 18:42)
Re: Rafe......  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 20:49)
Re: Rafe......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 21:23)
Re: Rafe......  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 21:37)
nothing to do with F1 or much else really,,,  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 22:01)
Re: Rafe......  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 22:34)
Re: Rafe......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 22:51)
Re: Rafe......  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 23:13)
Re: Rafe......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (09 Mar 2012 @ 7:00)
Re: IAN you are joking !?!  by 'itpro'   (04 Mar 2012 @ 18:10)
Re: PaulM  by 'richpudd2003'   (06 Mar 2012 @ 21:12)
Re: PaulM  by 'PaulMRotax'   (07 Mar 2012 @ 7:00)
Re: PaulM  by 'richpudd2003'   (07 Mar 2012 @ 12:31)
Re: PaulM  by 'PaulMRotax'   (07 Mar 2012 @ 12:55)
Re: PaulM  by 'richpudd2003'   (07 Mar 2012 @ 13:22)
Re: PaulM  by 'PaulMRotax'   (07 Mar 2012 @ 16:20)
Re: PaulM  by 'richpudd2003'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 11:24)
Re: PaulM  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 12:06)
Re: PaulM  by 'richpudd2003'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 12:38)
Re: PaulM  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 13:02)
Rich....  by 'itpro'  << You are here!
Re: Rich....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 12:19)
Re: Rich....  by 'richpudd2003'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 12:41)
Re: Rich....  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 16:27)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'itpro'   (04 Mar 2012 @ 18:03)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'Aquila'   (04 Mar 2012 @ 19:09)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'itpro'   (05 Mar 2012 @ 0:18)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'Aquila'   (05 Mar 2012 @ 6:47)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'itpro'   (05 Mar 2012 @ 12:53)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'Aquila'   (05 Mar 2012 @ 13:41)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'DavidG'   (05 Mar 2012 @ 18:50)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'itpro'   (05 Mar 2012 @ 19:39)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'DavidG'   (05 Mar 2012 @ 20:52)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'itpro'   (06 Mar 2012 @ 0:36)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'Aquila'   (05 Mar 2012 @ 19:39)
Boxsters  by 'Aquila'   (05 Mar 2012 @ 21:03)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'DavidG'   (06 Mar 2012 @ 3:51)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'itpro'   (06 Mar 2012 @ 10:15)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'buzzinrussell'   (07 Mar 2012 @ 10:34)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'itpro'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 17:32)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'buzzinrussell'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 20:33)
Re:Now who's joking....Aquila???  by 'Aquila'   (10 Mar 2012 @ 9:14)
Re: Cont....  by 'Bootynufc'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 20:04)
Re: Cont....  by 'itpro'   (01 Mar 2012 @ 23:34)
Re: Cont....  by 'Bootynufc'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 7:52)
Re: Cont....  by 'itpro'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 9:08)
Re: Cont....  by 'Bootynufc'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 9:31)
Re: Cont....  by 'michaelg36'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 13:58)
Re: Cont....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 14:03)
Michael  by 'itpro'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 14:21)
It pro  by 'Aquila'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 15:10)
Re: Michael  by 'DavyBoy'   (02 Mar 2012 @ 15:12)
Re: Sky Sports F1 on now  by 'PaulMRotax'   (07 Mar 2012 @ 19:21)
Re: Sky Sports F1 on now  by 'Doink'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 16:56)
Re: Sky Sports F1 on now  by 'PaulMRotax'   (08 Mar 2012 @ 17:13)

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