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Re: The Hillsborough discussion today, Mike
Posted by 'mobilechicane' on 13 Sep 2012 @ 12:43


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This is going to upset some, but these are my views, and yes, I have witnessed much of it first hand.

First, what were the fans crushed against ? That would be the fences put in place to control/ prevent pitch invasions and disorder. This prevented fans at the front having any form of emergency escape.

Who did the pushing ? Again, the fans. The local Sheffif was not there driving them like cattle.

Why was there a last minute rush ? There was then, and still is now a propensity to stay in the pub until the last possible minute by "some" fans. Now if you couple their mad rush with other factors ( maybe transport delays ) and sheer weight of numbers then you have potential problems.

Then you have an amount of impatience, not wanting to miss the game. Perfectly understandable.

All the above are possible contributing factors, not a single cause.

Now you have the Sherrif. Failing to remember or impliment the six P's was the first problem. Such monumental mistakes could only lead to disaster.

Then the cover ups. Simply deplorable. I'm no football fan, but I do not believe the idea of stealing from dead bodies and some of the other allegations.There was a major ar$e covering exercise put into place which has led to the facts being hidden from families.

However, this disaster was a major factor to the removal of the fences, improvement of safety at grounds by design, improved medical facilities at grounds and much more. This is a legacy to the fans who lost their lives.

The idea of blame, finding one single person totally responsible, or in combination with others, seems to be fuelled by anger and revenge. Surely once the truth is uncovered, the families can take solice from the fact that grounds are far safer now than they were then and the chances of a repeat are vastly reduced making attending matches much safer for their grandchildren, the pace of which was speeded up by this disaster.

I for one believe one more thing. Just when Mr Cameron is taking on the Old Bill over reforms and pension rights, this is released to " poison " public opinion against a set of society who set out predominately to help the public.

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