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Re: No Steven, I'm quite willing to be pleasantly.
Posted by 'stevenw' on 25 Sep 2008 @ 20:15


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"Recently a CoC told me a story about your attitude at a recent meeting, I didn't ask, he told me, now ask yourself, can we all be wrong?"

Ironic then that the first I knew of this opinion of his was on this forum, when you have made such a strong recommendation that such incidents should be 'dealt with on the day'. I literally knew nothing of any displeasure from the CoC on the day. Indeed the aforementioned CoC was the very same that signed my license upgrade card. Should I have recieved the signature if what I did was so wrong? Apparently I was nearly not allowed to start the race (again I only became aware of this fact days later on this forum).

And all this about being treat in kind. The whole saga began when I was spoken to like a child by an official, low and behold I reacted in kind. This is clearly no crime but in fact standard practice, so why all the fuss?

I am the first to admit that I am not whiter than white, but I genuinely believe that what happened to me on that day was wrong. Having paid my fee, the very least I expect from officials is to be treated with due respect. If they do, I will do the same. If they dont..... I'll take your advice and treat them in kind!

And your "ask yourself, can we all be wrong" comment: You have obviously asked yourself and decided that the CoC you were speaking to was right, despite the fact that you weren't even at the meeting. Nice one!

Your 'argument' is flawed in many, many ways and so long as it continues to be flawed, I will continue to challenge it.

Would appreciate a reasoned response to the points I have raised.

SW

Message Thread:

What is the point............  by 'maxdad'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 10:45)
Advised not to do so?  by 'SteveC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:01)
Re: Advised not to do so?  by 'maxdad'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:06)
And the exact words were?  by 'SteveC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:12)
Re: Advised not to do so?  by 'kartcollector'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 20:16)
Re: What is the point............  by 'RotaxMax22'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)
Re: What is the point............  by 'wildcard'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 14:39)
Re: What is the point............  by 'StepTZR250'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:09)
Re: What is the point............  by 'Aztech'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:14)
A bit of contact is OK..........  by 'FilW'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:22)
'Bud'??????  by 'itpro'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:13)
Re: 'Bud'??????  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:23)
Re: 'Bud'??????  by 'WillDendy87'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:44)
Will Dendy 87  by 'michaelg36'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 19:11)
Difficult for both sides.......  by 'ScoobyScene'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 17:02)
Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought  by 'NealC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 18:50)
Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought  by 'frag10'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 18:53)
Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought  by 'ScoobyScene'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 23:18)
At least 3 officials don't agree with your version  by 'SteveC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 19:02)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'Andreasdad'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 21:38)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'stevenw'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 0:16)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'broke'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 0:32)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'KenE'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 3:41)
Certainly the CoC is in charge of the meeting!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:41)
Re: Certainly the CoC is in charge of the meeting!  by 'richydehav'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 12:29)
Usually black flags are only used where a CoC is..  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:10)
And that what the appeal system is for!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:15)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'kartcollector'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 7:27)
Not sure Steven, but I have seen both yours and  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)
Steve C  by 'tweaker'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:10)
Re: Steve C  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:22)
ps it was response to your sons attack!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:50)
Re: Steve C  by 'tweaker'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 18:02)
Re: Steve C  by 'NJB'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 18:15)
Re: Steve C  by 'tweaker'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 19:18)
Mr Welsh and Steven!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 21:47)
Re: Mr Welsh and Steven!  by 'tweaker'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 23:42)
I was not aware you did MSA meetings!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:06)
I will clarify one thing for you tho'!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:41)
Re: I was not aware you did MSA meetings!  by 'tweaker'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:45)
Supply contact details and I will.......  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 9:54)
Re: Supply contact details and I will.......  by 'tweaker'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 10:00)
Thank you.  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 10:14)
You're right!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 21:41)
Re: Not sure Steven, but I have seen both yours an  by 'stevenw'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:39)
No Steven, I'm quite willing to be pleasantly.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:31)
ps I rarely do non MSA, so our paths are not.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:04)
Re: No Steven, I'm quite willing to be pleasantly.  by 'stevenw'  << You are here!
You're right this isn't the time nor the place!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 22:13)
Sorry but it would be un professional to discuss  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:09)
Re: Sorry but it would be un professional to discu  by 'RoadRat'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 12:49)
Re: Sorry but it would be un professional to discu  by 'kartcollector'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 17:14)
As I said retaliation is usually obvious, both on  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:13)
And that's what the protest system is for!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:17)
Re: And that's what the protest system is for!  by 'RoadRat'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 21:16)
I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'michaelg36'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:51)
Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'John'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 23:29)
Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'michaelg36'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 1:09)
Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 8:28)
Flag marshals if doing their job right  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:44)
Yes we do have a bigger problem and this is why!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:34)
Re: And that's what the protest system is for!  by 'bertie77'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:51)
Penalties are also dealing with it after.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:58)
Re: Penalties are also dealing with it after.....  by 'bertie77'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:36)
The reality Bertie is...................  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:43)
Re: Steve, the reality is...................  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 12:31)
Re: John - surely the protest supports the officia  by 'richydehav'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 12:57)
Re: Richydehav  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:20)
I believe all incidents seen by officials.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: I believe all incidents seen by officials.....  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:27)
Yes you're right, that is the exception!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:40)
Just an addition tho'!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:43)
Re: Just an addition tho'!  by 'RoadRat'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 20:52)
Re: Just an addition tho'!  by 'DevonHawker'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 23:12)
Re: Just an addition tho'!  by 'richydehav'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 7:29)
We live in an era where you have to.......  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 8:09)
Everyone has a right to comment!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 8:07)
Re: Everyone has a right to comment!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 11:55)
Re: Everyone has a right to comment!  by 'andrewf'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 13:07)
Re: I believe all incidents seen by officials.....  by 'KyleReece'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 13:42)

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