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Posted by 'vizard' on 11 Nov 2013 @ 14:09


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I wish users on this forum could politely answer questions from newbies with the same passion as demonstrated here.

The dynamics of any vehicle through stages of a corner are hugely complex. Attempting to use school-boy physics to argue or counter-argue anything said above is boring, pointless and confusing to anyone trying to follow it.

I personally would argue that since each driver is largely responsible for his own setup, his interpretation of various phrases doesn't matter. What matters is a)He/She knows what they would like to achieve with setup, and b)Their interpretation of phrases does not change. Hence, they are 'chasing' the same thing each time.

Finally, itpro, I think your reasoning regarding hopping is flawed. It suggests that hopping occurs when the inside wheel is on the floor, then in clean air, then back on the floor. If the effect was solely due the complete unloading of the inside rear, no 'hopping' would be visible. Ie,at zero load, the tire is still just in contact with the road, not at a height from the surface.

You also suggest that it could be due to the angle of the loaded rear tire in relation to the track. Given the amount of flex through chassis/axles/the tire itself, I would question whether this angle could ever be large enough to have such an extreme effect on handling.

I think the simplistic sidewall construction in most tires we use could contribute more to this. Personally. But it doesn't matter, in the same way various interpretations of the word 'release' don't really matter!

Message Thread:

Release...  by 'Hi99'   (09 Nov 2013 @ 9:43)
Release Itpro continued...  by 'Hi99'   (09 Nov 2013 @ 11:17)
Re: Release...  by 'd-i-y71'   (09 Nov 2013 @ 17:38)
Re: Release...so what have we got Now.  by 'd-i-y71'   (09 Nov 2013 @ 18:11)
Re: Release...so what have we got Now.  by 'NikG'   (09 Nov 2013 @ 19:50)
Re: Release...so what have we got Now.  by 'd-i-y71'   (09 Nov 2013 @ 20:31)
Re: Release...so what have we got Now.  by 'itpro'   (10 Nov 2013 @ 18:43)
Re: Release...so what have we got Now.  by 'Liam'   (10 Nov 2013 @ 21:53)
Re: Release...so what have we got Now.  by 'itpro'   (10 Nov 2013 @ 23:19)
Re: Release...so what have we got Now.  by 'd-i-y71'   (11 Nov 2013 @ 9:44)
Re: Release...so what have we got Now.  by 'itpro'   (11 Nov 2013 @ 9:53)
Re: Release? How about rate of lift?  by 'Cannar'   (11 Nov 2013 @ 13:00)
Re: Release? How about rate of lift?  by 'itpro'   (11 Nov 2013 @ 13:26)
Pointless Discussion  by 'vizard'  << You are here!
Re: Pointless Discussion  by 'itpro'   (11 Nov 2013 @ 15:12)
Re: Pointless Discussion  by 'SimonS'   (11 Nov 2013 @ 16:03)
Delving.  by 'd-i-y71'   (13 Nov 2013 @ 12:01)

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