Yeah the 450 does do well down at dunks, apparently its so much easier to drive as it just pulls you out of the corner as you dont have to be in any kind of powerband. They are awesome in the wet too, infact at our march meeting in the final (when it started raining as we all went out and were all on slicks) he won and I came second. If I remember correctly he had a laptime of 58.92, my fastest lap was 58.62 and the next fastest were 1.00.42, 1.02.42 and 1.03.14, it was that slippery that 3 of the guys didnt even make it to the start line Awesome kart in the wet and very handy in the dry too, also helps cos you can hear and feel them behind you easier than the 250's :)
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