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Re: and what about consistency in punishment
Posted by 'JohnClucas' on 03 Apr 2009 @ 20:47


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You have made it clear in previous postings that you are all for draconian punishments for speeders.

Are you being consistent? Do you think that equally draconian measures should be applied to:

1) non-hands free mobile phone use?
2) going over the permitted hours for goods vehicles (falling asleep is thought to account for 33% of all motorway deaths - far more serious than speeding)?
3) Smoking? Fiddling with the sat nav/radio?
4) Tailgating?
5) And what about mothers who allow their toddlers to walk on the footpath without being restrained by them (50% of all pedestrian deaths are the fault of the pedestrian and only 8% are due to motorists going too fast)
6) What about parents who allow their children not wear seat belts?

I could go on. If you are consistent with your penalties for the things that actually cause significant numbers of accidents. There will be a vast reduction in accidents - because everyone will be in prison.

Don't get me wrong they ALL (including, perhaps especially, the mothers) need to be subject to penalties BUT you need to be consistent AND realistic. I don't think you are either.

Message Thread:

Re: Continued from SAFE SPEED thread.  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 9:04)
Re: Continued from SAFE SPEED thread.  by 'davidmc'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 10:14)
David  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 11:37)
Re: David  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 12:56)
Re: Continued from SAFE SPEED thread.  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 11:32)
Re: Continued from SAFE SPEED thread.  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 13:06)
This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 15:54)
Re: Still avoiding the simple question itpro/tangl  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 17:11)
Re: Still avoiding the simple question itpro/tangl  by 'PaulMRotax'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 17:31)
Paul  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 19:52)
Re: Paul  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 8:19)
Re: Paul  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 10:15)
Re: Paul  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 10:22)
Re: Paul  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:23)
Re: Paul  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 12:33)
Re: Still avoiding the simple question itpro/tangl  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 17:41)
-John: still avoid the simple question itpro/tangl  by 'TanglerTKM'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 17:47)
Re: -John: still avoid the simple question itpro/t  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 19:35)
Re: -John: still avoid the simple question itpro/t  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 19:54)
Re: -John: still avoid the simple question itpro/t  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 19:59)
Re: -John: still avoid the simple question itpro/t  by 'TanglerTKM'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 22:45)
Re: That just sums it up Tangler!!!!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 7:56)
Re: That just sums it up Tangler!!!!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 8:24)
Dan.......  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:17)
Re: Dan.......  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:36)
Re: Dan.......  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 15:07)
Try thinking about it Dan  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 18:58)
Re: ARE YOU thinking about it Tangler?  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:24)
Re: ARE YOU thinking about it Tangler?  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:26)
Re: ARE YOU thinking about it Tangler?  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:39)
Re: ARE YOU thinking about it Tangler?  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:51)
Re: ARE YOU thinking about it Tangler?  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:07)
*sigh*  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:08)
Re: Excuse me Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:26)
Re: Excuse me Tangler  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:16)
Re: Typical ipro - no interest in facts or context  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 22:29)
Re: Dan.......  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:38)
Re: Dan.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 12:38)
Re: Dan.......  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 15:09)
Re: Dan.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:53)
Re: Dan.......  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:09)
Re: Dan.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 23:35)
I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU....  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 19:50)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 20:06)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 20:35)
where are we with this?  by 'TanglerTKM'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 23:08)
Re: where are we with this?  by 'Booney'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 23:29)
Re: where are we with this?  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 7:40)
Ok...getting somewhere! Booney & Dan  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:17)
Re: Now that is real progress Tangler!!!!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:47)
Re: Now that is real progress Tangler!!!!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:13)
Re: Now that is real progress Tangler!!!!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:36)
Re: Now that is real progress Tangler!!!!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:57)
Re: Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 8:15)
Re: Tangler  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:26)
John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 18:44)
Re: Tangler - well actually YES someone did die  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:41)
Re: Tangler - well actually YES someone did die  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:21)
For goodness sake Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 22:33)
John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 23:38)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:10)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:50)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 15:08)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:12)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:30)
Re: Sorry I should have said..  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:15)
Re: Sorry I should have said..  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:53)
Re: So answer the question  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:59)
Re: So answer the question  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:13)
Gentlemen....I suggest you look here......  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 21:08)
Re: Gentlemen....I suggest you look here......  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 21:37)
Re: Do be scientific  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 21:59)
Re: Do be scientific...get it right...  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 22:04)
Re: Do be scientific...get it right...  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 22:15)
john.....ahem  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 23:47)
Re: er Tangler no  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:08)
John....you're arguing against yourself now!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:27)
Re: no I'm not!!!  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:51)
Re: no I'm not!!!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 16:00)
Re: Try logic tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 17:32)
and i thought it was blue.....  by 'Avago'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:43)
Re: This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 20:49)
Re: This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:00)
Re: This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 12:39)
I really can't understand.....  by 'vic'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 13:01)
Re: Unfortunately vic  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 17:01)
John will do his BEST to avoid this BUT.....  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:28)
Re: No he won't, put up or shut up  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:47)
Re: No he won't, put up or shut up  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:10)
One for the mix  by 'Booney'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 23:24)
Re: One for the mix  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 23:55)
Re: One for the mix  by 'PaulMRotax'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 7:59)
Re: One for the mix  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 8:59)
Re: One for the mix  by 'PaulMRotax'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 11:17)
Re: One for the mix  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 16:10)
Re: One for the mix  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:00)
Accidents are NOT accidents because....  by 'Avago'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:56)
Re: Accidents are NOT accidents because....  by 'Booney'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 17:33)
Re: Accidents are NOT accidents because....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (04 Apr 2009 @ 14:02)
Re: Unfortunately vic....  by 'vic'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:51)
Re: Unfortunately vic....  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 14:36)
Re: Unfortunately vic....  by 'vic'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 19:37)
Re: Unfortunately vic....  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:12)
Re: Telepathy or what!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:26)
Re: Unfortunately vic....  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:21)
Dan & John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:56)
Re: And the conclusion...  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 21:29)
The reason speed is made an issue  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 21:58)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:10)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:20)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:26)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:44)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:22)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:47)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'JohnClucas'   (04 Apr 2009 @ 19:38)
Re: Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 21:37)
Re: Tangler  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:05)
Re: Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (04 Apr 2009 @ 12:42)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (04 Apr 2009 @ 14:19)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 0:01)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'TanglerTKM'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 8:57)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 13:21)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 17:47)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'TanglerTKM'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 18:38)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 20:05)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'JohnClucas'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 21:28)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (06 Apr 2009 @ 7:24)
Re: and what about consistency in punishment  by 'JohnClucas'  << You are here!
Re: This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:37)
Re: This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'DevonHawker'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:48)

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