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Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?
Posted by 'davidmc' on 17 Apr 2009 @ 00:27


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davidmc
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John,

Explain how it would be impossible for the statistics to stay the same if the situations I suggested had occured. I have clearly shown that your interpretation of the statistics is mathematically and logically incorrect.

I will take the easiest example. 50% of people speed, 13% of fatal accidents are due to speeding (or people speeding at the time; again it's irrelevant to the correct interpretation of the statistics). It is entirely possible (though extremely unlikely) for those statistics to arise with just ONE of the "speeders" committing ALL of the 13% of fatal accidents.

You simply CANNOT link two discrete sets of data in such a way. I generally agree with your overall position on road safety and am not at all trying to suggest that speeding is the major contributory factor to road accidents, yet cannot accept the incorrect application of statistics you are applying.

Dave

Message Thread:

Speed limits  by 'MarkW'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 3:19)
Re: Speed limits  by 'Latestarter'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 6:53)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 9:18)
Re: Speed limits  by 'mobilechicane'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 10:33)
Re: Speed limits  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 11:44)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DBaldwin'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 12:16)
Re: Speed limits  by 'michaelg36'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 12:36)
Re: Speed limits  by 'harvinsurrey'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 17:00)
Re: Speed limits  by 'harvinsurrey'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 17:02)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 20:41)
Re: Speed limits  by 'kudos'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 22:19)
Re: Speed limits  by 'HC64'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 0:17)
Re: Speed limits  by 'ChrisAdams'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 2:00)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 8:07)
Re: Speed limits  by 'JohnClucas'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 9:18)
Re: Speed limits  by 'davidmc'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 11:37)
Re: I don't want to re-run the argument again  by 'JohnClucas'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 12:46)
Re: Speed limits  by 'harvinsurrey'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 9:26)
Re: Speed limits  by 'HC64'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 9:42)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DBaldwin'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 10:07)
Re: Speed limits  by 'HC64'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 11:03)
Re: Speed limits  by 'davidmc'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 11:49)
Re: Speed limits  by 'ChrisAdams'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 13:32)
Re: Speed limits  by 'JohnClucas'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 10:55)
Re: Speed limits  by 'davidmc'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 11:33)
Re: Sorry david but it certainly does  by 'JohnClucas'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 16:25)
Re: Speed limits and cameras  by 'JohnClucas'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 16:42)
Re: Speed limits and cameras  by 'TanglerTKM'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 17:29)
Re: No Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 17:34)
can you post the link?  by 'TanglerTKM'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 17:38)
Re: Give me strength  by 'JohnClucas'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 19:31)
You don't have the figures do you John...  by 'TanglerTKM'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 23:58)
Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?  by 'JohnClucas'   (15 Apr 2009 @ 20:54)
Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?  by 'Avago'   (15 Apr 2009 @ 22:36)
Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 1:45)
Re: Avago Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 8:04)
Re: John  by 'davidmc'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 9:41)
..trying to make it simple.  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 11:37)
Re: David  by 'JohnClucas'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 14:43)
Re: Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 14:54)
Re: John  by 'davidmc'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 20:43)
Re: sorry David  by 'JohnClucas'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 22:02)
John, stop making conclusions you can't make  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 22:44)
Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?  by 'davidmc'  << You are here!
Re:straws get thinner by the moment  by 'JohnClucas'   (17 Apr 2009 @ 19:22)
Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (17 Apr 2009 @ 23:38)
Dan & John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (18 Apr 2009 @ 10:06)
Re: convenient misinterpretation of the figures  by 'JohnClucas'   (18 Apr 2009 @ 20:44)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 22:14)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 22:20)
Re: Speed limits  by 'davidmc'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 8:32)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 9:00)

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